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The ICE arrest of Des Moines Public Schools Superintendent Ian Roberts shocked Iowa, leaving community members and citizen journalists with more questions than answers. In this interview, newly installed Interim Superintendent, Matt Smith tries to fill the information vacuum, but concedes much of the process was a mystery even to him.
Serving as Associate Superintendent, this will be his second time stepping into the role left open by controversy. Smith says he was kept out of much of the Roberts hiring process and hasn’t kept up with the news. Instead he is choosing to counter declining enrollment and sliding test scores by introducing a new trade school-leaning model and preschool.
See our interview with citizen journalist Laura Powell, who’s viral thread attracted local media attention. Listen now »
Refocusing Amid Media Storm and Community Uncertainty
Smith addressed speculation surrounding Roberts’ background, emphasizing that neither he nor the board had prior knowledge of the allegations before the arrest. Instead, he underscored the district’s commitment to verified facts and transparency, even as rumors swirl.
“We won’t speculate… We just try to keep our focus on serving 30,000 children and the 4,700 adults in our presence and try to do right by them every day.”
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Unpacking the Hiring Process and Third-Party Roles
The conversation shifted toward the controversial hiring process, highlighting the roles of external organizations such as JG Consulting and the Council of the Great City Schools. Smith clarified that the school board—not the administration—selects the superintendent and that Des Moines Public Schools is now engaged in legal proceedings against JG Consulting.
Smith distanced himself from decisions around local candidate exclusions, stating he was uninvolved during that period. “I was doing the job at that point in time,” he said. “I wasn’t part of that process.”
Clarifying Rumors and Community Relationships
Addressing online allegations of pre-existing relationships between Roberts and hiring affiliates, Smith explained that educational leaders often attend the same national development programs, creating professional overlap. He also firmly denied any knowledge of racial preferences influencing the selection process.
“The job is to do better today than you did yesterday… sometimes [that means] to get out of your context, to learn from someone else.”
Fallout in the Wake of Roberts’ Arrest
Smith acknowledged the emotional impact of Roberts’ arrest on students and families, noting widespread confusion and fear, particularly among immigrant communities. The district’s counselors and mental health professionals were mobilized to assist.
The superintendent explained that while Des Moines has a significant immigrant population, DMPS does not and legally cannot track documentation status. “If a student shows up at our doorstep, we’re gonna love ’em,” Smith assured listeners.
Addressing Enrollment Decline and Literacy Challenges
Post-pandemic challenges remain a pressing issue, with student enrollment continuing to decline. Smith cited a significant loss during COVID and ongoing open enrollment issues, particularly between fifth and sixth grade. To combat this, he detailed the district’s “Reimagined Education” initiative focused on literacy, career pathways, and preschool access.
He emphasized research-supported strategies, especially early childhood education. “Students that had high-quality preschool… are scoring at almost twice the rate of proficiency all the way through sixth grade,” he said.
Gender Guidance and Ideological Balance
Smith was also asked about DMPS guidance on gender issues which have become a hot debate between folks on the right and left of the political isle. Does the school district have guidance for staff and educators or is their role to leave these decisions with parents?
Smith emphasized the district’s commitment to following state law, particularly regarding curriculum content on gender identity. State law dictates they are not allowed to state a position or affirm a particular ideology or view on gender. He reaffirmed DMPS’s inclusive posture, noting their mission to provide a safe environment for all students regardless of background or identity.
This is a notable change from 2 years ago. Photos recently published online from North High School taken in 2023 show LGBTQIA+ flags, “Unapologetically Queer” and trans messaging on throughout school halls.
When asked if this was the schools present position, Smith said no. “That would not follow Iowa Law.” he said, saying Iowa law has changed since then, and they’ve remained in compliance. “When you go back to Iowa Law and the Department of Education guidance, that’s changed over the last several years.”
Their mission is to help children and leave ideology or politics to lawmakers. “Whoever shows up at our door, we serve them with love, with compassion,” said Smith. “We’re gonna make sure that they are safe in our buildings and that they are engaged academically and socially.”
Updated Oct 16th:
Despite Smith’s claim, local parent Jennifer Cronin claims educators from Callanan Middle School and Central Academy are displaying LGBTQIA+ flags and symbols. “We have brought our concerns to the schools’ attention, as recently as yesterday.” Cronin stated on October 15th via X. “The Principal has said there is nothing he can do about it.” A message left for Principal Ryan Sharpe was not returned.
Cell Phone Policy Shows Promising Results
On a more hopeful note, Smith highlighted early success from the district’s new cell phone policy, pointing to greater student connection and engagement. “Folks feel connected again,” he said, describing a renewed sense of presence in schools.
$265M Bond Proposal: A Vision for the Future
Wrapping up, Smith passionately advocated for a proposed $265 million bond measure on the November ballot. He detailed how the funding would expand preschool, enhance career and technical programs, and build signature magnet schools. Framing it as a “generational investment,” Smith stressed the economic and educational benefits for Des Moines.
“It’s a win for kids. It’s a win for homeowners. And it’s also a win economically because it creates jobs.”