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Justin Brady: Come with me to a magical place where being labeled the pork queen is a compliment. Where being nice is just a way of life and where all leaders of the free world must pass through. Welcome to Iowa. Whether you are a current Iowan, an Iowa expat, or an Iowan at heart, this show is for you. This is the Iowa Podcast, real Iowans, real talk. No. Drama. I’m Justin Brady and with the RFK endorsement, don’t worry, we’re not talking about politics today, but with the RFK endorsement, suddenly people are talking about the link between our food and chronic disease. Now we’re not going to endorse any presidential people or talk about that today, but we will be talking about what is the link. Is there a link? Should people be concerned about it? Seed oils, pesticides, too much sugar, all this stuff is what we’re going to be talking about today. And why? The way you feel might be because of what you’re actually eating. And so today, Kelli Hanson, a registered dietician, joins us to discuss just that. Thank you for coming on the Iowa podcast. It’s good to have you here.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, I’m excited.

Justin Brady: I’m really happy you’re here. I I think I don’t know when it was it was many many years ago now and I Discovered there was a food link to my seasonal allergies, which blew my mind I just thought allergies happened. Sometimes something’s in the air. You inhale it and you sneeze. That’s kind of what I assumed That’s not well, at least for me. That’s not even remotely. Correct. It was when I was Uh, I told the um, uh, Major Skip Manus, chaplain of the Iowa National Guard, I think he’s since moved to another state, but I was like, I think when I have beer, like my allergies get worse. And he’s like, all beer or some beer? I was like, huh? I was like, does that matter? He’s like, I think it does. And long story short, I figured out beer from certain countries was fine. But if it was made here, I had a severe reaction to it. Now, I didn’t make the direct link because at first you get a sniffly nose and the next day is when things really hit. So I never even made the connection. And that’s what took me down the rabbit hole of, Oh, some foods like obviously beer is probably not the best example, but some foods that we think are healthy. Are not healthy. So is the United States food supply unhealthy?

Kelli Hanson: That’s a big question. Um, and I always want to take a very multifaceted approach to food. Absolutely. It depends on the person, the individual. But yes, our food supply has been more modified. Processed in different ways over the last 50 plus years and definitely has some differences compared to other countries But also our lifestyle is different than other countries too, which is a major impact, too

Justin Brady: Yeah, so some of the some of the specific things that came up Seed oils are a big one right now that you hear that tub being talked about. I would say maybe like a core media sources TV news you probably don’t hear about it that much You But social media and people sharing articles and I’m not talking about crazy, you know, crack pots that are just like, you know, um, Making wild claims, you know, always check the source, but seed oils and like pesticides. Let’s start there because What’s up with what’s up with like pesticides we spray on? Crops like is that getting into the food supply? Like why is this a concern?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah I mean pesticides are definitely getting into our food supply. We have tested baby’s blood Like, it does have more than it did once, 50 years ago, where we were using less. I mean, we’ve definitely increased the amount of pesticides, so that’s one that’s a little bit tougher to actually study. We don’t have as many long term studies on it, um, but again, depending on the amount you’re exposed to, depending on other forms of stress. Which would be called your allostatic load. Like what else is stressing out your body? How do you manage different things that come into your body that aren’t meant to be there? Um, so I mean, I still tell people eating non organic vegetables is usually going to be better for us than eating no vegetables, but yeah, there’s, I mean, there’s definitely a rise in autoimmune conditions, which is very concerning because all of these different toxins and pesticides do influence our immune system. Um, so that, that is a bit scary.

Justin Brady: You, you dropped something there. Allostatic load? Mm hmm. What does that mean?

Kelli Hanson: It is a term referring to how your body deals with chronic stress. Which, let’s define stress quickly. Yeah, yeah. That is not just, okay, I’m stressed about this. Day of work or this I’m sitting in traffic like, yes, those stresses out in the short term, but, um, chemicals, different hormonal changes can be stressful how we’re thinking. So we know, like, people with adverse childhood experiences who had trauma when they were young, have higher levels of stress hormones, those types of things. So there’s a lot of things that stress us out. Food can also stress us out being Too high in calories or too low in calories for too long, which I see a lot of in the population I work with, which is a lot of younger women trying to diet and being actually too low in calories. So, yeah. Um, yeah, it’s really just the total compounding effect of different stressors on our body over time.

Justin Brady: And you’re talking about like not, obviously mental stress wears down the body, but you’re also talking about physical stress when you eat things that aren’t compatible or easily processed by your body. Is that what you’re saying?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, for sure.

Justin Brady: So what, what are things that increase the, I’ve never, I probably should have heard this word before, but what are things that increase the allostatic load? And is that always bad? Because like someone was telling me, my brother was telling me the other day, in some vegetables, there’s an increase of certain chemicals that make it hard for bugs to eat those chemicals. And it’s technically in trace amounts, not good for you, but it is good for you. Because certain things have like a cleansing effect and I, you know, so what, what overtaxes us on the allostatic load? I don’t know if there’s like a list or if there’s like an index or something.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, so like I had said, so definitely emotional, mental stressors. So how we’re thinking, which a lot of us, you know, do have more fear based thinking now that there’s a lot of stress in our world where We’re just more overstimulated by like social media, other things, so we’re not always getting into that calm side of our nervous system, but then there’s, there’s also the effects of like trauma. Like I said, um, there is toxin exposures, there’s pesticides, there’s more sugars, um, things that cause erratic blood sugar and insulin. That’s a big one that I talk about. That’s a really major root cause for so many people depend not even just for weight gain But um, that’s that’s a big one

Justin Brady: insulin

Kelli Hanson: Yes, insulin resistance and just rising levels of that hormone because we’re not using our carbs as well Oxidative stress is another term you might see in our research studies so that can oftentimes really just a lack of Fruits and vegetables in the diet and lack of fiber which influences our gut, but we do know there’s other things that are influencing gut health Which really refers to our balance of bacteria in our gut and other places in our body skin have a microbiome, too so we know like the use of antibiotics and more c sections Less breastfeeding. Some of those things are impacting population wide gut health, not just how much fiber we’re eating. So, yes, those are some things that might impact that total stress. I also would call it like a stress bucket. Alcohol smoking, obviously those things too can influence that.

Justin Brady: I mean alcohol alone will just destroy your gut health. You know, and don’t get me wrong. I like a good glass of bourbon or a beer or something or a glass of wine, but my gosh, it can just, it can wreak havoc on you. I am glad you brought up gut health because a lot of people just think I’ll just take a probiotic and I’ll be fine. You know, that’s, that’s, you know, a lot of people at this point have heard of probiotics. And so they’re just like, yeah, I’ll just take a probiotic. I’ll have a cup of yogurt and it’s good. It’s not that simple though.

Kelli Hanson: Mm hmm. Yeah, for sure. Definitely. The composition of our diet is much more impactful, I would say, than even just a probiotic. The supplement, but probiotics can be really helpful at times. And I always bring it back to that stress piece too, like how are we sleeping? How are we thinking? Are we moving our bodies? Those all will positively influence our stress. Like you said, is all stress bad? No, we can help our bodies to become more resilient to stress. And to tolerate more intense exercise, more intense bouts of cognitive thinking, um, when we have adequate nutrition and adequate recovery time. So

Justin Brady: what, what is the difference between like a probiotic and a prebiotic? Because we’re seeing like prebiotic sodas now. Yeah. Is that just marketing? Is it a marketing gimmick? Or is there actually something to it?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, there’s a variety of different science-y compounds that would be considered the prebiotics and they’re all a form of fiber. So. We have this whole bucket of fibers and there’s a section a subset of those that are prebiotics and those are actually what the Bacteria in the gut are feeding on it’s the food for those good bacteria So the probiotics are actually those bacteria that you’re adding more in the prebiotics are the food for that bacteria So yeah, I mean, I love the prebiotic sodas I know one of them got sued recently because what they poppy they didn’t actually have quite as much You Fiber in there is what they were claiming, but still it’s definitely not harmful and I love that they’re using stevia I love that as a sweetener Definitely helping people decrease their you know High fructose corn syrup and sugar consumption and and that fiber is helping meet your fiber goals Yeah, it shouldn’t be your only source of fiber though Um, we know that one of the main benefits of eating fiber rich foods is that you’re chewing them for a really long time. Really? You’re helping your body be like, okay, I’m satiated. I’m eating, you know, a whole plate of food rather than you just drink a fiber, then it’s going straight through you. And you’re probably still going to be like, Oh, my brain’s like, I’m still hungry.

Justin Brady: Yeah.

Kelli Hanson: So.

Justin Brady: Yeah. And that’s like, I was listening to the Huberman Lab podcast a little while ago and he mentioned something about the link between being satiated, being full and good nutrition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he’s like, I will, because if you go eat like a giant ribeye with a side of broccoli or something, he’s like, I’d be shocked if you’re not full and not satiated, but a lot of Americans and I do say Americans because I’ve been to other countries and they don’t have these issues, but a lot of Americans We’ll eat like a huge dinner still feel hungry and then keep snacking Why what they’re what why is their food? They’re eating for dinner generally because obviously it could be anything but generally speaking from what you see Why are they eating a dinner? That’s not filling. What’s the problem?

Kelli Hanson: so again it it all comes down to who you’re talking to and There are a lot of people that experience that there’s also on the opposite We have a lot of people that don’t feel Their hunger or they feel it very erratically throughout different times of the month and it all comes to the mind body connection. How do we feel our body’s signals? And when we’re so disconnected, we have that more stress, we don’t, those neurotransmitters, hormonal signaling pathways are being impacted. There’s lots of different mechanisms and that’s always with nutrition and health is, we pick out different mechanisms and talk about them in research, on social media, and like, that’s Sometimes we miss other ones. So but yeah, it’s it’s we’re not always sensing our hunger, but we’re also not maybe maybe we’re not eating enough of those two Nutrients or few nutrients that are more satiating so protein fat and fiber

Justin Brady: got it

Kelli Hanson: Which fiber is a type of carbs? But then there’s other carbs that are low in fiber that are not going to be as satiating and and we might just eat Eat them more quickly. So that’s that’s a piece of it. Um, so it’s it’s

Justin Brady: the fact that they’re Their meal is just not it’s nutritionally not dense enough It doesn’t it doesn’t it doesn’t have enough well protein fat and fiber in it And because you know again, we went through like what was it the 60s or the 70s where like fat was bad Yes, and now we’ve come full circle where that’s not true I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Is that correct? You’re

Kelli Hanson: totally right. Yeah starting in You I mean, we started studying cholesterol long before that, but it was around the 1950s when they really made that link that, um, yeah, that cholesterol was raising our LDL and that we should be lowering fats in our diet.

Justin Brady: Yeah, because they always do the, the oversimplification where we’re like higher cholesterol is bad and now they’re like, actually, we’re kind of walking, we’re going to walk that, we’re going to walk that back. Yeah. Another thing I wanted to get into. There’s a lot I want to get into, but, um, what are some of the nutritional deficiencies? Because you mentioned people aren’t getting fat, they’re not getting good fats, you know, for avocados or maybe, you know, like, like, you know, eating a nice ribeye, stuff like that. Um, they’re not getting enough fiber. That’s the one of the things that like my brother talks about the dentist. He’s like, you know, fruit fibers fine, but then people give fruit juice to their kids. That’s really bad because that’s just sugar and there’s no fiber to offset the sugar. That’s a whole topic. Like, But what are some of the nutritional deficiencies that are common in the United States?

Kelli Hanson: Okay. Okay. There’s a couple umbrellas of this. So first we have the umbrella of calories again. So maybe we, we do just have an excess of calories. We know that that can be negative. Usually what that comes from is not eating too much vegetables and ribeye Sometimes it could, but typically that’s not where usually because we’re In a calorie excess, it’s because we’re eating more processed foods and a lot of our processed foods don’t have that fiber and the vitamins and minerals that our whole unprocessed foods would have. So we may have fiber, vitamin, mineral deficiencies. Um, then we have the umbrella of, yeah, more hormonal dysregulation. such as insulin resistance being a big one, which again does not just apply to people who are in larger bodies of excess body weight any body size can have Insulin resistance which can lead to other problems with controlling appetite other hormones sex hormones So that one can be a little more related to timing of when we’re eating If we are grazing and we’re not getting those proteins so protein deficiency Definitely is something I will see. A lot of people that come and start wanting to lose weight have never tracked their protein. They are under eating protein or they’re all they’re eating it all in one meal, and then they’re skimping earlier in the day. Adolescent girls are also like the group that’s most commonly gonna have a protein deficiency. That can sometimes be because they’re stubborn. They don’t like it. They That was me. Yeah. Oh, really? Okay. Um, yeah. And, and vegetarians, vegans can definitely get their, their protein in. Some people do, do well with a little lower protein intake because they have so much fiber and so much plant based nutrient dense foods. So um, yeah, and then, and then fat. can be potentially a deficiency. Um, if we do have too low of cholesterol, which that was also me when I was like 18, then we don’t produce enough hormones because cholesterol helps with hormone production and it also helps with our nervous system. So we could have a deficiency of that maybe. Or just the types of fat, which is where we’ll, we’ll get into with seed oils of there’s, there’s different types too.

Justin Brady: Yeah.

Kelli Hanson: Not all fat is necessarily the same. I

Justin Brady: want to talk about seed oils, but um,

Kelli Hanson: Hopefully that helped.,

Justin Brady: yeah, what, what, when you say, and I think I know the answer, but this might be something that’s thrown around so much. That it’s just lost its meaning when you say processed foods, right? What is a pro is the opposite of that a whole food? Like are those or those just different categories? What’s the actual difference? What’s what’s the actual difference?

Kelli Hanson: That’s a great question because I don’t love to use any like vague terms where we’re We’re calling everything processed bad. That’s definitely not the case. The definition of a processed food, I would say, is anything that has been altered or changed from its natural state. So, I mean, beef that comes straight from the butcher compared to meatballs that have been put in a bag and frozen. I would consider those to be a processed food. Got it. Or maybe a canned soup. That would be processed. Um, even carrots that are made into the baby carrot form, right, like they didn’t grow out of ground like that. That would be considered processed. Are those all bad? No, I would

Justin Brady: Got it, so it’s a sliding scale.

Kelli Hanson: Yes, of course, yes, everything is a spectrum and it’s that’s why it’s so important to be able to learn to read labels and just know Kind of what you’re looking for, which ingredients really are a little more of a red flag and still make sure that majority of what you are consuming is pretty minimally processed and has minimal ingredients added into it. That’s just a very safe blanket term, but then again, we have. These socioeconomic barriers to cost of food, of course, and I’ve seen that I’ve worked with WIC. I’ve worked in community health where like, I’m not going to tell the exact same thing to someone there as someone else who is much higher nomically and can really afford to be. When I say vote with your food dollars, spend on those brands that do put that effort in. Even if it costs you a little more, my hope is it has that ripple effect and eventually food companies start to Notice that and say okay people do value this ingredient.

Justin Brady: Yeah, it’s it’s a matter of don’t it might be impossible Depending on where you live or how much money you’re making or your particular season you’re in It might be impossible to completely eradicate all processed foods. So what you’re saying is, and correct me if I’m wrong, but what I think you’re saying is try to pick the least processed foods you can as often as you can. But sometimes that’s not going to be a possibility, but sometimes it is. And so always try to pick less processed. This is, now I will say, I actually, because of my own health journey, have obsessed about this for the last couple years, like getting myself healthier, making sure to eat the right things, and it’s almost like learning a new language.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah,

Justin Brady: because a couple of years ago walking through a grocery store, I probably would not have been able to tell you that looks healthy, but it is toxic AF. Stay away from it. And this thing looks unhealthy, but is extremely healthy. For example, like a big steak, like a ribeye. I was told years ago, like stay away from red meats and look at all the fat in there. And that’s really bad for you. Now I know. Um, and I guess I should ask this in the form of a question because I’m, I’m, I’m not the registered dietitian, is, is red meat one of not, not the, but is red meat like one of the better things you can eat?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah. And I will say even among dietitians, you would get some different answers. And so there are, you know, my personal belief, but also I can share studies and research and personal experience as to why I consume red meat. Um, there are going to be some people that. Over consume it or are more genetically susceptible to

Justin Brady: No, no way. Hold on. Hold on. There’s no such thing as over consuming red meat, is there?

Kelli Hanson: Anything good can become bad in excess, right? But yeah, your original question was, is, yeah, is red meat a health food? Like, I would say yes, it’s so rich in, in protein, B vitamins, iron, zinc, fats, too. And it is so satiating. So, for me, it has really helped me to consume enough overall food build muscle, um, have stable blood sugar, which most of those things do apply to most people, I would say. Um, there is more benefit, I would say, to eating grass fed beef. It does have a better fatty acid profile, more of those omega 3 fats. But again, one of those things that I would still rather you have some grain fed beef than none,

Justin Brady: yeah,

Kelli Hanson: And you can get those nutrients in other foods, too, but most people who enjoy beef, then they don’t overeat in that meal. Like, there are just more overall benefits, but yeah, there are still some studies that we can say, okay, yep, some people are consuming too much saturated fat. Adding in more of the unsaturated fat showed benefits in them. In other people, it maybe didn’t. So it is kind of a, okay, what does your blood work look like? What is your family history? What are your other lifestyle factors? So

Justin Brady: is red meat like a steak, the most nutrient dense or are there other things that are more nutrient dense than that?

Kelli Hanson: So really any animal based proteins are some of the most nutrient dense foods we have. And I would also say some of the most biologically compatible, meaning

Justin Brady: interesting,

Kelli Hanson: you know, we’re made of our brain. It contains tons of our nervous system. And so that’s when I heard that from a training that I’m doing, it just really clicked of like, okay, you don’t necessarily, he said, what’d he say? Don’t think we are what we eat. Think eat what we are. I was like, wow, that makes so much sense. Then there, there are groups of people, different ethnicities that do a lot better on a vegetarian plant based diet too and do well personally, that just for me didn’t feel as good. So,

Justin Brady: it’s just a matter of if you’re a vegan or vegetarian, you’re going to have to work a little harder to get your protein and your fat intake. Is that, is that safe to say? Like, no, you can probably be, uh, I’m saying probably cause I don’t know. You can probably just as healthy being a vegetarian or vegan. You’re just going to have to work really hard to increase that protein intake. Whereas if I have a steak. It’s like a 30 grams or something. A it’s a ridiculous amount of protein. Just like that.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, exactly. Um,

Justin Brady: you mentioned liver. Mm-Hmm. Before we recording What’s up with liver?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah. Liver has definitely blown up on social media, like the liver king and, and all of that. It wasn’t something that, I don’t even know what the liver king is. That’s okay. Yeah, he, he blew, I don’t. I think he got canceled though from using steroids or something, but anyways, it wasn’t something I really was super aware of until I really started studying PCOS in my own health and learning from other dieticians who got trained in functional medicine. So that was, When I was around like 20, so I was, I was studying to be a dietitian and an exercise science background, but I hadn’t explored a lot of that area. I was thinking I would go more public health. But anyways, your question about liver is that it’s, it’s the most micronutrient dense food on the planet. So micronutrients,

Justin Brady: Okay.

Kelli Hanson: are our vitamins and minerals. So that’s different than the protein, fat, carb, our macronutrients, which are what contain the calories in our food. Micronutrients are what really fuel and are the spark plugs to every process in our body, every chemical reaction. So they’re obviously pretty important. And there’s specific ones in there, vitamin A being one that’s really, really important for the reproductive system. So, it, it for centuries has been a very sacred food in a lot of cultures for fertility for couples that are conceiving and, but it has other benefits too with just overall wellness. A lot of us don’t consume as much vitamin A because it is harder to get it. It is in dairy, sweet potatoes, egg yolks, but just not quite as many foods. Cod liver oil, isn’t that one of them? Cod liver oil has some vitamin A.

Justin Brady: See?,

Kelli Hanson: it’s just, yeah, you know your stuff.

Justin Brady: I do research everybody, for those watching online on the video thing. I do my research, I know what I’m talking about.

Kelli Hanson: So yeah, some people will call it like nature’s multivitamin. Not the same as taking a very comprehensive multivitamin, but can be helpful.

Justin Brady: Yeah Seed oils we got to get into seed oils. Like this is something I’ve only learned about recently and I had no idea Mom, you’re right kind of kind of mom you know, she was always talking about fried foods when I was a kid how they’re bad and Um, that, you know, I, when I got older, I’m like, Oh, actually, like, I have a frying, you know, shallow frying and like avocado oil, surf frying is not that bad. It’s fine. But she was totally right on deep frying because, you know, when you’re deep frying stuff and all this toxic oil, um, I have found out that I feel like crud and, you know, mom was right. And so seed, well, what’s the difference between like seed oils, I guess I should say, what is a seed oil and how is that different from like an avocado oil or an olive oil? And why are seed oils considered bad for us now? Because this is like, you know, um, this is now a thing. This is now in the news. People are talking about, well, hold up. Seed oils are bad. I thought they were from seeds.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, right. Like we do think, okay, something’s from a plant. It should be better for us. But it comes back to that. What’s Biologically compatible with humans and I like to think of it Just very logically of how have we been eating for thousands of years like these foods that are newly introduced Make me be very skeptical.

Justin Brady: Mm hmm.

Kelli Hanson: I’m like, you know, like we have not been consuming this but at the same time I don’t love to just call them toxic and say we should never have them I don’t think that that’s realistic for anybody

Justin Brady: sure

Kelli Hanson: that I’ve ever worked with Because we most of us grew up consuming a lot of these oils without really under knowing having no clue what they were, you know

Justin Brady: Right.

Kelli Hanson: Um, so it’s not usually even the first thing I would tackle with people typically when we eat more whole foods We just end up eating less of them. Anyways, I But what they are is they’re, yeah, they’re oils made from vegetables, essentially corn, soybeans. Um, some are from nuts and seeds too, like sunflower oil, safflower. Um, so really just plant based, but they contain linoleic acid. This is where I need to use words, get jumbled, but they contain, they’re polyunsaturated fats. So, our monounsaturated fats are more from our olive oil, avocado oil, some are from nuts and seeds. Some foods have a mix. And then we have our saturated fats, which are all from the animal products, milk, dairy, meat, and then coconut oil is a plant based one that happens to be saturated. The only one. Um, and so, the main mechanism that gets really bashed with seed oils is that they are inflammatory.

Justin Brady: Oh. And

Kelli Hanson: what does that really mean? That’s a, a cellular process that we know is a root of a lot of chronic diseases. So we don’t want inflammation, right? And so the, the omega 3 and the omega 6 fats, which have really also blown up, like omega 3 fatty acids being supplemented is, is pretty common. A lot of people that come to me are already taking that and I’m like, great. Um, we know the Mediterranean diet has a lot of fish. So, anyways, those omega 3 and omega 6 are both under the polyunsaturated fat window. There’s lots of different offshoots of the types of fats, like I had said. So, those two fats compete in the body for the same pathway. And back, back in the days of like hunter gatherers, we think that people had an either even, pretty even ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 or maybe like 3 to 1, like a little more omega 6. Um, now we have 30 to 1 ratio. Oh my. Since, like recently, like we started using them in the 1950s, right? So our intake of them has gone up, um, because we thought it would decrease our fat, rid of fat intake. Yeah. And it has. We have started eating a little less whole fat dairy, butter, meats. We still eat them, but less. Um, and so we haven’t necessarily seen a heart disease go away. We’ve seen diabetes get higher.

Justin Brady: Yeah.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah. Right? And, and other conditions.

Justin Brady: So we, wait a minute, we, we. Like the autoimmune

Kelli Hanson: conditions are definitely getting worse. So it’s like. Has it really helped? We started

Justin Brady: introducing seed oils to decrease diabetes and obesity and in the process increase them substantially.

Kelli Hanson: And so we’ve, we’ve also increased intake of carbohydrates, increased overall calories. So it’s like, okay, yes, we can pull out that one pathway, which is, I do definitely believe may increase inflammation in people. I actually test blood levels of these fats. And I do see most people have, their ratio is not that low. Um, but then there’s also things I will tackle like, Okay, do we just have too many calories? Are we lacking other vitamins and minerals? Like it is one pathway, but there’s other things that could cause that inflammation as well. Um, but with cholesterol, like we know that that’s maybe not the only driver of heart disease. There’s other markers that we don’t commonly get tested. So have you heard of like the APO proteins or like oxidation of LDL?

Justin Brady: Nope.

Kelli Hanson: Um,

Justin Brady: that might, that man, it’s like, what do we go into? Right. Yeah. Yeah. It’s, it’s basically, uh, there, there’s a chance that seed oils, and again, this is, this is new research. Um, but there is some, there’s a chance that seed oils may be contributing to the obesity epidemic more than the butter in which they replaced. Is that a fair assessment?

Kelli Hanson: Yes. I mean, there’s, there’s that correlation, but it’s not a causation.

Justin Brady: Right. Right. It’s still under the microscope, so the foods that

Kelli Hanson: we were, that we’ve added in are those highly processed, highly palatable. It’s a lot of things at once. We, I don’t love the term food addiction because I think that it should be reserved to. More of a like an eating disorder type of a case, but most humans I would say could be categorized as having some disordered eating tendencies, meaning like We have a weird relationship with food now. We don’t always understand how much we should eat or what we should eat. We overthink about food, which we didn’t used to do. We would just eat what was there, what was local, what was prepared.

Justin Brady: We ate, we got full, we all looked fine.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, and it’s just like that’s not now that everything is so accessible and so Process that that’s just not how it goes.

Justin Brady: The last question here. Um, a lot of Americans diets are nutritionally deficient, like they’re not getting the nutrition they need if and again, just last 30 seconds here. What are the tops like supplements? You’re often now, obviously not medical advice. Everybody is. Um, you are a registered dietitian, but I just want to put that out there. Like, you know, everybody has unique issues. Consult your physicians. I would make sure to consult a physician who actually cares about nutrition, by the way. That’s a big deal. A lot of physicians are clueless about nutrition, so make sure you avoid those people. But um, my opinion, not, not, not putting my opinion on you, Kelli, but. Um, that’s just my opinion. You want a doctor who actually cares about your health, not just prescribing or doing surgeries. But, um, what are some of the supplements that you often see your, your clients are deficient in?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah. So,

Justin Brady: not supplements are deficient, but the supplements that would help a deficiency. I

Kelli Hanson: put pretty much everyone on a good quality multivitamin that has bioavailable nutrients. It’s important to know. There’s a few that you want to look at. Like, Um, our, our folate needs to be the methylated form because so many things in our world now are depleting vitamins and minerals. Our, our, our supply of soil is just less, has less minerals. So that’s one that I see most people do well with. However, there are things we can test and see, yes, you’re deficient in this one. We could maybe supplement some extra. Um, and so I know I had said, okay, anything synthetically made is bad. I’m not supposed to say that, but anything. With vitamins and minerals, these are natural things that our body has, so we, we can make them really close to what they are in our body. They’re, same with hormones, like bioidentical. We can actually make bioidentical nutrients that are going to help our body. So I am definitely not saying we need to only do the plant based vitamins and minerals, like, synthetic ones can be really helpful. So a good quality multivitamin Um, If you need a protein supplement, I think great, that can be really helpful to get enough protein. If you need an omega 3 supplement, you’re not eating a lot of fish, a lot of people benefit with that. So, those would be the ones I would say, test your vitamin D, a lot of people are going to be deficient.

Justin Brady: Yeah, we don’t work outside as much as that, we need

Kelli Hanson: vitamin K2, we need some magnesium to utilize it. So those would be the ones I start with

Justin Brady: yeah, cuz they like is something about vitamin D’s not easily absorbed without k2 So you take them together? Yeah, and a lot of people are really deficient in magnesium This is one of the things my brother always talks about how it’s so crazy. How many people are magnesium deficient and Magnesium is one of those core things the body needs to do all its stuff all of our minerals

Kelli Hanson: really Kelli I’m

Justin Brady: Kelli Hanson registered dietitian. I really appreciate you coming in here It’s a lot And, you know, this is I’m sure people’s brains are swirling. Yeah. So how do they reach out to you? And what are some really good like sources? I threw out Huberman lab. I’m not sure if you agree with Huberman lab. I think that’s a really great source for people to subscribe to their long thing. So if you’re doing a drive. I would consume that stuff because he’s a medicine guy over at Stanford. It’s very sound research that he only uses. What are some other really, really good sources people can turn to and how do they reach out to you?

Kelli Hanson: Yeah. I love him. So, um, I love you from in lab. I, the Weston a price foundation is an organization that’s been around for a while and is fairly influential in the functional medicine realm, which is great. The, the practitioners that are looking more at really root causes and looking at the individual person. So,

Justin Brady: we’ll make sure to put that in the show notes.

Kelli Hanson: Yeah, they have some really interesting content. A lot of it is a little more controversial.

Justin Brady: Okay.

Kelli Hanson: But, um, some really great stuff. The, I really like Chris Masterjohn. He’s a nutrition PhD that he puts out a lot of great blogs and podcasts. Um, a couple in the women’s health space that I think are great, a podcast called Are You Menstrual? Um, Robin, Robin Johnson has been one that I followed for a while. I honestly like, I don’t follow every single nutrition podcast out there cause I sometimes just get overwhelmed. I’m like, I need to do other things with my time than just studying. But um, but yeah, and then those are some good takeaways,

Justin Brady: uh, Kelli Hanson and what’s the website?

Kelli Hanson: Um, I, yeah, I share a lot of stuff on Instagram, YouTube. Um, my website is kellikhanson.com and then I have an offshoot women’s health one that is linked on there as well. Okay. Um, but my Instagram I would say is really where I put a ton of, a ton of content. We’ll make sure to link

Justin Brady: all of that on iowapodcast. com and it is Kelli with an I everybody and yeah, all the links will go iowapodcast. com Kelli, thank you so much for coming on the Iowa podcast. And to my fellow Iowans, Iowa expats, and Iowans at heart, thanks for listening and Subscribing to the Iowa podcast.