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Justin Brady: Real Iowans Real talk, no drama. This is the Iowa Podcast and we are proud to record in the Jethro Barbecue Studio 30 years. It’s an anniversary, 30 years of Triple Espresso, and 23 of those beautiful years have been in Des Moines, Iowa. In fact, Triple Espresso is the longest running, I would argue, most successful show in Iowa history in one of the stars. Of the show, Patrick Albanese joins us today. Patrick, thank you so much for coming in here

Patrick Albanese: and I apologize right off the bat for you know, your intro, talking about real Iowans real talk, no drama.

Justin Brady: Great point.

Patrick Albanese: Then You bring in an actor. What? No drama. It’s all drama, So

Justin Brady: that’s so funny. When we say no drama, what we mean is like no click bait and rage bait and that kind of stuff. But this is the perfect kind of

Patrick Albanese: Well, if you wanna see how we do the no clickbait thing? tune In later.

Justin Brady: So we’re gonna do a little bit of a memory lane. Obviously this is going to air after your last show of the season, but we’re gonna do a little memory lane walk and talk about why the show has been successful. But before we do that, as a reminder, if you love barbecue, which I do. Go to Iowa podcast.com. Scrolls to the top. There’s a little image of Jethro. If you buy a hundred dollars gift card, like you’re gonna take the family out, take a group out. If you buy a hundred dollars gift card, they’ll just give you a $30 gift card for free. So if you gift it, if you do a group barbecue thing, then you just get a 31 free for yourself. You don’t have to tell anybody. It’s pretty, pretty cool. So Patrick, 30 years of Triple Espresso. I can’t remember. I did a little research. Have you been there? At the very, very beginning of the show, ’cause it started in Minnesota.

Patrick Albanese: I am, uh, kind of a new guy I’m closing in on 26 years, so, you know, uh, almost 4,000 performances I’ve done. Yes. And yes. I, do know my lines. I know them. I know them.

Justin Brady: oh my gosh,

Patrick Albanese: yeah. Well, John Bush, one of the other actors, he and I started the same day, April 1st, 2000, And uh, he was living in New York, I was living in. LA and we showed up in Minneapolis and met each other and said, if this is an April fool’s joke, it’s really good.

Justin Brady: So the original, let’s go back to the original ’cause. Originally it came to Des Moines, 2002, I and it was only slated for 10.

Patrick Albanese: weeks. six six weeks? My original contract, was, uh, six to eight weeks. It ended up running 68, so I evidently there was a typo. in there. I’m not sure

Justin Brady: maybe that was the

Patrick Albanese: Um, it’s six weeks, but we’re, we’re fairly confident. that we’ll get a two week extension. So we, they wanted us to sign up for the two week extension. Obviously they were free to cancel it at any point in time. Uh, but they wanted to have us kind of on the hook ’cause it’s, you know, you don’t wanna try to recast when you don’t, when you have a Day to do it. Sure. And, uh, I was like, six to eight weeks work. I’ll take it. And you know, it’s like where they said Des Moines, I go, where’s that? And they said, Iowa. And I said, where’s that? I lived in Los Angeles. I grew up in Chicago and you know, I had driven through Iowa. a handful of times. I’d Never stopped. And so this was my First time stopping in Iowa.

Justin Brady: Yeah. And you ended up moving here, which we’ll get into later. Yes. But would, do you have And sometimes, sometimes in, I, I, this is as close to show business as I’ve gotten in, in the podcasting

Patrick Albanese: me too. It’s similar,

Justin Brady: but. Sometimes you don’t know why it, but sometimes it just hits the show. Just hits. Do you know why, like Iowans and people all over the world, you’ve performed all over the world yourself. Um, but do you know why it’s been such a success, not just in Iowa, but across the globe?

Patrick Albanese: a Well, I, I certainly know part of the success in Iowa, was the magic of timing. Uh, you know, We had been to other cities. I, I had worked. Milwaukee and we were. Packing a, a nearly 500 seat theater by the time our six week run ended there. We Went back in the summertime. and we couldn’t get a hundred people. So they’re going, Well, they said, oh yeah, you don’t do, the summers in Milwaukee. Who knew that? Right. uh, so you gotta be in the right place at the right time. Uh, the Temple Theater was brand new, had that new theater, smelling everything,

Justin Brady: right?

Patrick Albanese: And, uh, I dunno if you recall, but back then. when Harry Bookie was re. Doing that building, what would you call that? saving it from being torn down. Right, right. There were two sides of the debate, and they would have dueling commentaries in the papers and on the radio, people said, this is, this guy’s. an idiot, you know? Mm-hmm. That Area of town is dead. And there were other people that said, well, this is great. This could be really good. It could be the rebirth of something new. So as a result, people were kind of hands off, and Jeff Helberg from the Civic Center said, you, you’re putting a theater in there. I have a show. That I’ve been looking at, but, and that’s where I want to put it. Interesting. So we ended up in this brand new place, in this brand new theater in an area of town. That was, it turns out we find begging to be kind of the catalyst for the rebuilding of downtown, which now it’s this place where people go, oh, I love going down there. It’s like, yeah, people didn’t use to go down there. Even the loop scoopers were like, eh, it’s not even cool to scoop the loop there anymore. Right. So there was that, and then by virtue of the fact that. nobody would touch it, when the demand for tickets kept go, kept up. uh, Most theaters, they’re booked. They have, well, the next show is coming in and the next show is coming in. Well, this place was wide open. Nobody was

Justin Brady: No one was there. So you could just keep extending,

Patrick Albanese: they said, well, let’s go another six weeks. Well, Harry Bookie, the owner’s like, well, I don’t have any. nobody’s calling me. I got nothing going on. So that. Kind of I don’t know what you would call that star lining up was Part of the success. And then, um, it’s a great show. It’s a fun show and, and people just, I think they Enjoyed coming to Left

Justin Brady: It is a great show.

Patrick Albanese: Yeah. And no drama. Couple times I remember those shows and they were good ones. that you were at. But I think you should give

Justin Brady: I really

Patrick Albanese: one more. Yeah. I You stood out. I could feel it.

Justin Brady: I know.

Patrick Albanese: But I, I, also think, you know, it’s really nice. You don’t often get. it when you go to the theater and you say, look, there’s no political message here. Nobody’s trying to do

Justin Brady: Mm.

Patrick Albanese: What we want is for you to have a good time. And so we’re not gonna try to slip in any type of you know, social believe in the children, you know, type. of me. You should believe in the children, by the way, just in case you’re wondering. You know how theater can do that sometimes, and and that’s Always upset me. I go, our Movies do it all the time. You say, oh, Come

Justin Brady: I just wanted to watch a show and

Patrick Albanese: I just, yeah. Now it’s a political message. So we were that show. Yeah. And I, I, so that worked and, uh, I don’t know, we just, all of us fell in love with the city. I, I, I still, I go It’s a city. It is a city, right? Yeah.

Justin Brady: yeah. And it’s, it is interesting like, um. That is a good point that back then I think things are more polarizing

Patrick Albanese: Mm-hmm. than it

Justin Brady: to be, but back then it was a feel good show. It was new. You mentioned the stars aligned, but perhaps the momentum continued over the years because you were politically neutral. Like there aren’t, there aren’t any, as I recall, there aren’t even any hints. Or subtle hints at any politics at all? No. It’s very much something that no matter what your political persuasion is, you’re gonna find it funny. You’re gonna be able to let your guard down, you’re gonna be able to laugh, which is the whole point,

Patrick Albanese: is, and the show is written by three Christians. So sometimes people would read that in the bios going, Okay, here it comes.

Justin Brady: Mm.

Patrick Albanese: It’s like, no, No, I mean, in a way there is a Christian message. there. They, they, the three of them will proudly say, this is our ministry. You say, well, You go, well, where’s the, you know, where’s the altar call? They’re going, no, that’s not that. kind of minute. Our ministry is joy.

Justin Brady: Mm.

Patrick Albanese: Our ministry is to just clean joy. Uh, and, uh, just Two hours, an hour and a half. where you can just forget everything. And I think you’re right. As, as the world has gotten even more polarized, Triple Espresso became more popular because it was reliable.

Justin Brady: mm. People

Patrick Albanese: said, I know I can go to that thing and not. have that. Thing

Justin Brady: I can bring my kids and they won’t have a religious message. They won’t have an ideological

Patrick Albanese: Right. They won’t be. I always laugh. it’s, you know, It’s hard to go to uh, my stepbrother used to run the shed Aquarium in Chicago and uh, so it was nice ’cause I could get in, I could get in free, but I’d be like, Jim, I was like, you know, I’d be reluctant to want pay $60 to walk in here. And every exhibit, I go to tells me I’m a bad guy. Right.

Justin Brady: right? There’s a fish

Patrick Albanese: and it’s in danger because of, man. Yes. Okay. What do you want from me? Yeah, money. Yeah. Money to save. that fish

Justin Brady: to feel

Patrick Albanese: Yeah. Can You go look at the beluga whales, they’re an even bigger, danger buddy. And it’s because of you,

Justin Brady: you mentioned, um, falling in love with the city and uh, like I alluded to earlier, you’ve lived in other cities and you ended up moving here Yes. For the show and so. Des Moines as as a PO. Different than a bigger city where you can kind of just blend in and become a number. Des Moines, not that way. Des Moines, very connected. And so are there, I mean, you’ve been doing this 23 years here in Des Moines now. Yep. I’m sure you have a list or memory of your top several very odd public interactions, like when you’re out and about, you get recognized, you don’t have the flashy jacket on. Are there some interesting public re like reactions that you’ve had over the years of a performing in Triple Espresso? Yeah,

Patrick Albanese: absolutely. And it’s, it’s really kind of fascinating uh, because you can live in some of the, I lived in Los Angeles, grew up in the Chicago suburbs and. You don’t often see the cynicism creeping into your life, but you become cynical sometimes. I’m not blaming those cities, but That’s where it happened You know, your Honor. And so, you know, nobody in Los Angeles, for instance. wants to get together with you unless there’s something in it for them. So if Somebody’s like, Hey, you oughta come on over, you go, yeah, what do you need? Plumbing, what do you need? And people would recognize you here after the show had been here a while. They’d say, I saw your show. It was great. And that would be the extent of it. It was really nice. It’s, it’s like an ideal level of I don’t wanna even call it fame recognition. but Then they wanted to talk about normal stuff and then occasionally, somebody would say. so, I see you’ve been you looks like you’ve been here for months. I bet you haven’t had a, a, a good home cooked meal in a while. Um, we’d like to invite JVA for a good home. cooked meal.

Justin Brady: Really, people just don’t know You

Patrick Albanese: don’t know you. And So at first, of course, now here’s the, I’m the Los Angeles guy. My friend John is the New York Guying. And, uh, what, do they want They want free tickets for life. What do they want from us?

Justin Brady: have a torture chamber in the basement? Yeah. Yeah.

Patrick Albanese: It’s just, They just abduct actors and they just wanted, to give us a nice dinner. they wanted to give us some of what, what they feel. We gave them. You gave us a good night out. We’d like to give you a good night. out. And then, and we had done this uh, interview in the. Des Moines Register, uh, you know, and, uh, Jodi Crossman, uh, was the, uh, one who asked us, you know, are the Things you miss about being back home? You know, I said, you know, I, I really miss, I wish I could get, I can’t find Swedish pancakes here. really? So you know well this was 2002 ish, 2003, you know, this is pre

Justin Brady: Because my family’s Swedish, so we can make those for you. Would you like to come over to dinner, by the way? Yes.

Patrick Albanese: yes. No obligation.

Justin Brady: we’ll, we’ll invite you over for Christmas

Patrick Albanese: the very next day in my, I was staying at the hotel Fort Des Moines. My phone rings. and it’s this woman named Sam Cook was her name. Yeah. And she lived out at Beaver Creek Golf. course. And she says, Hey, um. We, we read that article and we would like to make Swedish pancakes for you. funny. And call the other guys and we’re just gonna have a chef there. And Whatever you want. Just give us a menu and we’ll make it for you. So At this point we’re kind of used to that. Des Moines people weren’t Weird. in

Justin Brady: Yeah. They just want to be

Patrick Albanese: Iowa Nice. thing. And we go and we Sure. enough, there’s the Swedish pancakes And she says, you know, are dissatisfactory. I said, you know, I, I did forget to mention the Swedish bikini team as well. I mean, if you are, if you are granting requests, if you have this kind of power, but that, that would happen all the time. Uh, and. I think I still have some friends to this day from those early interactions. and I met my wife during the show.

Justin Brady: Yeah, talk about that because you met your wife, uh, she was in the production team of Triple Espresso or

Patrick Albanese: something. No, it’s, it’s the coolest story. My wife it was a stage manager. Now

Justin Brady: that’s it. Stage

Patrick Albanese: Yeah. She wasn’t, working for the show.

Justin Brady: No, but for like the performing arts in general and Yeah. Yeah. And

Patrick Albanese: And so because we had, you know, this con continuing extensions. uh, the touring Stage manager wanted to get back on the road, and so they said, well, do you have any, we need a local stage manager. And Who knows? It could be uh, a month of work, it could be multiple. months of work. Do you have anybody they call the Civic Center and they said, well, we got a, a whole bunch of resumes in a drawer here, so we’ll go through ’em. Well, the resumes were all from one, person, my wife. So she had a

Justin Brady: wife at this point, right? Yeah, yeah.

Patrick Albanese: She would go down every Friday. They’d see her coming and she’d just drop off a fresh you know, here’s another resume. And they’re go, we got,

Justin Brady: That’s smart. That’s smart.

Patrick Albanese: So when they get the phone call from our mothership in Minneapolis saying, do you have any local stage managers? They open a drawer and they’re like, yes, we do whole stack of them.

Justin Brady: from the same person.

Patrick Albanese: Same person. So she took over the show as stage manager and then it ran for like another a year. So, you know, slowly get to know each other and, uh, you know, but I lived 1800 miles away. She lived here and, uh, you know. The Show ends. And she said she was willing to move 1800 miles ’cause she was offered a job in New York. so we went the opposite directions for about a year and a half, Yeah.

Justin Brady: and then she came back.

Patrick Albanese: Uh, then she came out to LA for a while and, you know, she lasted two years there and said, this is a horrible place and if we,

Justin Brady: If

Patrick Albanese: have a future, how are we gonna do it here? I was like, I don’t know, panhandling. That’s how I did it in the past. I don’t know. So, uh, that’s when we moved to Des Moines.

Justin Brady: how long you been married now?

Patrick Albanese: Uh, Let’s see, we just, well, it’s 17 and a half years. Wow. By the way, that’s in a row.

Justin Brady: Yeah. Thanks for

Patrick Albanese: it’s important to know.

Justin Brady: Yeah. So we, earlier we alluded to this, but you, you’ve been, um, people may think that you. We’re elsewhere. You’re a Des Moines transplant. You just kind of stick around here with Triple Espresso. That’s not true at all. You’ve actually performed, uh, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, San Diego, Denver, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Chicago. Seattle, Dublin, London, Belgium, Munich, Germany. I think I

Patrick Albanese: I didn’t get to do the Germany.

Justin Brady: didn’t do the Germany ones? No. You’ve been all over the place performing this. Um, is it, do, does everybody receive it the same way Des Moines receives it? Because like. My German friends will tell you themselves like, this is, this is how they laugh. And this is how they’re, yeah. So what, is it received the same all around the world that it is in Des Moines, or is Triple Espresso received differently overseas and in different cultures?

Patrick Albanese: Uh, well, let’s see. I Dublin it was, I didn’t know what to expect It was huge. And we were in this horrifically tight theater where, you know, the the, the seats went, there was a small aisle. and then they were practically up on the stage and the back row of seats hit the wall. so, it was about 200 people and it would get to be 90 degrees in there because it was tiny. And they rolled out, They Howled. We were kind of stu even, I think even the Irish, producers, you know, who said, well, let’s try this. they were a little bit stunned, like, look at this thing. And we just kept going and we kept doing extended runs there. And uh, you know, People that come out afterwards. You shake hands and because you don’t quite understand the idioms yet, you know? people say, Brilliant. You’re

Justin Brady: Mm,

Patrick Albanese: and you’re like. apparently. I’m brilliant. Apparently I’m brilliant, but turns out that means that was good.

Justin Brady: Mm-hmm.

Patrick Albanese: It’s not as cool as you would think, uh, but it, uh, um, it went over very well. in foreign countries. So in Germany, they trained. A German cast and it didn’t run long and I don’t know if it was, you know, availability of a theater. I don’t know if the humor translated. S well into German, and then to the stage. Um, so, uh, that one didn’t do as well. but did Okay. Hmm. You know? and, uh, I don’t know. You know, I’ve, we’ve gone to some of the CDC where you think it’s gonna be gangbusters and it’s not. And it’s always a mystery. You know, we went to Denver and we weren’t quite the hit that we thought we’d be.

Justin Brady: Mm. Really? Denver. Denver Of all places. That’s so weird. Uh,

Patrick Albanese: you know, it’s, uh, it’s it is the kind of show that takes a while for the word of mouth to get going. And a lot of times the producers in the cities say, you know, I don’t have the patience to wait 4, 5, 6 weeks for the word of mouth to get going. Sure. I can bring you in for two weeks. and see where you know how it goes.

Justin Brady: So maybe Denver people are a lot like German people. Yes. Just not, not much sense of humor. Very stoic. Very to the point for,

Patrick Albanese: yeah, Yeah. it’s a mile high. It’s gotta be something.

Justin Brady: Maybe that’s the problem. Maybe they’re all high, not even paying attention.

Patrick Albanese: this was pre The legalization of everything. So I don’t know.

Justin Brady: how about, um, like reactions from Iowa over. The course of the Triple Espresso run. Talking about culture, you talk about how Iowans, just like the Iowa nice thing is legit. It’s a real thing.

Patrick Albanese: legit.

Justin Brady: Yeah. Your show does, I wouldn’t say relies, but your show hinges or heavily involves audience participation and so have there been any surprises from the Iowa audience over the years that have really stuck out during a performance of Triple Espresso?

Patrick Albanese: uh, no, you, so here’s the funny thing. You know, when you do a show like ours uh, and people say, well, that it seemed to be that you improvised, uh, some, some moments there In the past, I’d say, well, absolutely. That was an unusual moment. But after I’ve been performing it almost 26 years, 4,000 performances of the show, it’s Not often that somebody throws something at you, that you haven’t heard once or twice before. And the nice thing about that. is, you know, in the past somebody might have teed that. one up for me. And I didn’t hit it, I didn’t hit it properly, I didn’t have the proper response. Then I heard it again and I said, lemme try this. Lemme try this. And then eventually I find something that works. And now I have this locked in thing, that makes me look like this improvisational genius, and I go, well, I stumbled upon it. I got lucky it took me seven attempts, to find the right thing. so I don’t think anybody threw anything. I mean, weird things would happen. here. The Des Moines production, of all the Triple Espresso productions, and it’s gotta be over 10,000 performances when you think of it. This is the only place. this is the only half show. We own this the Des Moines, Iowa. So we had this guy, grant Richie was playing the piano player part, Hugh Butternut and. We noticed he wasn’t looking so good

Justin Brady: Mm-hmm.

Patrick Albanese: The first act And uh, at that time we used to have an intermission and we. would, I’d be playing banjo and the other guys would be playing kazoo and a, you know, a noise stick. And Grant comes out from the stage. He’s like, I gotta go to the bathroom. So he’s gone and John and I do the thing, and we go to the dressing room afterwards waiting for act two to start. And all we hear is. Vomiting

Justin Brady: Uh,

Patrick Albanese: it’s, yeah. So We sent him off to the emergency room. and it’s like, well, what do we do? So, uh, John and I decide with Janet, who was stage manager. I said, well, I could do some magic. I have some magic left over that they haven’t seen yet. We could do a couple of things together. John and I can tell a couple of jokes. I’ll go out and play the banjo a little bit. And so we did that and we did pieces of the show. But we Started by telling them, grant, the third actor, he’s at the emergency room right now. He’s like, so here’s what we’re offering. Uh, We’ll do a couple of things for you. because you’re here, but full refund. or you take your ticket study, come back to see the whole show. So we do it. we Finish our little shtick. we take maybe a half hour and we get this massive standing ovation. I go, we’ll see how nice They, are ’cause they’re understanding our plate. Nobody asked for a

Justin Brady: Really. Not one person,

Patrick Albanese: not one person. And then when people came back later, we’d meet them in the lobby. They’d say the show ended differently. This time I saw, and I’m going, will You here the night when the guy got sick. Like I go, yeah, that that was, that was Not planned. That’s not the show.

Justin Brady: thought that was the show. They

Patrick Albanese: thought it was the show. That’s hilarious. It was Hysterical. So That is so no refunds. I didn’t even know if people said, I’ll, I’ll take the offer to come back. They just bought tickets to come back ’cause they loved the show so much. and they said hey was different

Justin Brady: So some people Reba, okay. Or hold on. So, oh wait, wait a minute. Okay, so Triple espresso, longest running show in Iowa and people, and, and you had this moment where one of your actors got sick and is throwing up in the basement or throwing up Yeah. And has to go to the

Patrick Albanese: room. He’s gone.

Justin Brady: you tell everybody, this is what’s happening. We’re so sorry about

Patrick Albanese: We’ll do what we can for you offer

Justin Brady: refunds and then people think that’s part of the show and they rebuy tickets to see it again

Patrick Albanese: because they said that was great and. they go, this is a different show and, but now I’ll credit that to the fact that because the show has that improvisational feel to it, They were like, well, I don’t know what’s real and what’s not.

Justin Brady: That is

Patrick Albanese: And a good portion of the show we spend breaking the fourth wall and involving the audience. So the fact that we came out and involved the audience was not unusual. If it had been a regular play, you know, raisin in the sun or something, and the actress came out and said, Hey, just wanted to talk to you guys. Uh, we’ve never addressed you. prior to this moment, but we’d been doing it all show, So they were used to us breaking the fourth wall. So they thought, that’s interesting Little way to get rid of the actor. It was fun.

Justin Brady: What a funny moment. And so people were literally at dinner with family or friends saying, oh my gosh, I really like the part when that guy gets sick or something and has to go to the emergency room. Hilarious. And other people are like, I. Did we see the same

Patrick Albanese: I think we Saw? The same show? Yeah. it was pretty funny. That’s fantastic.

Justin Brady: Um, what else, like, um, last question before I let you go. What is the big thing that has stuck with you either about Des Moines, Iowa, or the run in general over the 30 years? And obviously you haven’t been with it all 30 years, but what’s been the, almost all of them, what’s been the big thing that has stuck with you?

Patrick Albanese: Well, you know, there’s, the way Triple Espresso tends to stick to you. Uh, so when I, I went to first see. uh, go see the show down in San Diego, uh, I didn’t know much about it. I’d heard about it. A friend was in it, and it was like some friends were going. I was like, eh. I’ll go, I’ll go see a play on my day off. And we drove two hours and from the minute it started, I was just swept along with the joy of it and so much so that unary for me, I don’t like to step outta comfort zones and I protect myself very well. but the actor that was playing the magician part. was out in the lobby afterwards like we do, and I walked up and I said, are you ever looking for people to do this part? It was kind of an uncomfortable thing for me to do, but I did it and he said, yeah, I don’t know. turned out he actually was, and he had been in San Diego for two weeks looking for somebody. Oh.

Justin Brady: been. Oh,

Patrick Albanese: And he was going home the next morning with nobody, So I, showed up at the last hour. I get hired and I thought, well, I’ll just do this. occasionally. I got swept up in the joy of it and then I got swept up in the stories and I got Swept up in the moments and there’d be times. I remember doing a show in San Diego clear as day. This is going back to like 2001, and a Woman in the lobby. comes. I Turns out I had brought her dad. I brought this guy up on stage and I was like, uh, I’ve made a mistake. This guy’s 110 years old, but the audience loved him, so it was happiness. I’m out in the lobby afterwards, and this woman’s making a beeline for me. I’m going, okay, here’s the stalker. Here’s the killer. But she’s, She’s weeping. She’s, This

Justin Brady: gonna wanna cook me dinner.

Patrick Albanese: Yeah. She’s wanna cook me dinner. San Diego. They don’t do that, but She’s bawling.

Justin Brady: Hmm.

Patrick Albanese: She says, as my father, you brought up on stage, uh, he’s 93 years old and he and my mother were married for, uh, 62 years, or 72 years. 72 years. It was like 72 years, and she died six months ago. That’s the first time I’ve seen him smile since. So, no, I’m crying. in the lobby, which I’m very upset about ’cause I don’t like to do that. But if you talk to any of the actors of triple Espresso, they have those stories and then you realize that it’s the joy of the show and it brings out some things in people. We’ve seen families, I don’t wanna say reunite, that had some problems, but families that didn’t get along well together would come to this show, laugh together. And go out and have a nice night, and you’d say that’s, it just had that effect and it had that effect on my life. You know,

Justin Brady: Patrick Albanese, one of the three shots of triple

Patrick Albanese: 35% of, the show, if you ask me Yes.

Justin Brady: Thank you for what you have brought to Des Moines, and of course, thank you for coming on the Iowa Podcast. We appreciate it.

Patrick Albanese: Thank you for having me. I was, I’m going on the Iowa Podcast. Yes. finally,

Justin Brady: he’s finally made it.

Patrick Albanese: finally made it.